Please tell us about your career path so far. What is your area of specialization and how did you come to work in this area?

My entire career has been in an academic institution as I have had a vision to become a scholar since my early semesters in the undergraduate program in economics at the Faculty of Economics and Business, Universitas Indonesia. .

Two years after completing my doctoral degree at GRIPS, I was appointed Deputy Director of the Master of Public Policy and two years later as the Director of the undergraduate program in economics at Universitas Indonesia. Since 2022, I have been serving as Director of the Institute for Economic and Social Research (LPEM).

Universitas Indonesia has been both the starting point and the cornerstone of my academic and professional journey. It is where I hope to continue contributing, particularly in shaping and supporting Indonesia's economic policymaking.

You are currently serving as Director of the Institute for Economic and Social Research (LPEM) at the University of Indonesia (UI), one of Indonesia's leading research institutes. What are your current priorities for the Institute, and what direction would you like to take it in the coming years?

LPEM has always been a key institute for Indonesia's economic development, especially in supporting and promoting evidence-based policymaking. One of our key priorities is to continuously equip our research staff with cutting-edge knowledge, skills, and methodologies. This ensures that our work remains relevant, rigorous, and impactful, both in research and in the training we provide.

We aim to continue cultivating the next generation of evidence-based leaders--individuals who will go on to serve in both government and non-government institutions. Looking ahead, I envision positioning LPEM as a research institute of international standing, contributing not only to Indonesia but also to global policy and academic discourse.

You also served as the Head of Research for Digital Economy and Behavioral Economics at the same Institute. What do you see as the most exciting developments in this space, and what are the next big research questions you are exploring related to Indonesia's digital economy?

The digital economy holds immense potential--especially in developing countries like Indonesia--but it also brings inherent risks. While it has opened up new opportunities for work and entrepreneurship, digital skills and access remain unevenly distributed. Even in this area, many people still lack the tools to fully participate. This growing digital divide is a major concern, as it risks deepening existing inequalities.

Although digital platforms have enabled many to thrive outside traditional systems, a large number of users remain excluded from the formal economy.

Since the digital economy is here to stay, the main question is how digital platforms could design policies that increase the inclusivity and improve the overall welfare of society.

What continues to inspire you in your role as both an academic and the Director of LPEM FEB UI, and how do you balance research leadership, academic responsibilities, and policy engagement?

I consider myself fortunate that LPEM has long-standing, broad, and close networks with both central and regional governments. Leading the Institute means being expected to contribute to the national interest and help address pressing national challenges. At the same time, I must ensure that the institution remains financially sustainable and that our internal processes and services meet high standards of quality.

In developing countries, the reality is that academics often don't have the luxury of time. Balancing research, teaching, leadership, and policy engagement requires working beyond regular hours--weekends and holidays included. I'm especially grateful for the full support and understanding I receive from my family, and in particular from my wife, which makes it all possible.

What have been the most interesting or rewarding aspects of your career thus far?

The most rewarding aspect of my career is seeing my research influence decision-makers to rethink and redesign their policies. Our in-house publications at LPEM--covering topics such as macroeconomics, trade, fiscal policy, and labor--are widely read and frequently referenced by both government and non-government institutions. Knowing that our work contributes to evidence-based policymaking makes the effort deeply fulfilling. .

Looking ahead, what are your professional goals, and where do you envision your work and contributions in the next five to ten years?

My professional goal is to become a professor within the next three years while continuing to contribute to evidence-based policymaking in Indonesia throughout. I aim to remain actively engaged in research that informs national policy and supports inclusive development. .

What led you to GRIPS? What is the most important thing you gained from it, and how has your experience at GRIPS prepared you for future endeavors?

Honestly, it was the Mitsubishi scholarship that brought me to GRIPS, and I remain very grateful for that opportunity. GRIPS provided an international environment that encouraged me to be inclusive, open-minded, and objective--qualities that are essential in my role as an academic and as a manager of academic programs and a research institution.

Additionally, the strong network of Indonesian officials I met at GRIPS has been invaluable. These connections have helped me build close relationships with policymakers, which continues to support my work in bridging research and policy.

Since completing your studies, have you had any professional or personal engagements with Japan?

Yes, LPEM collaborates with several Japanese partners, including the Japanese Embassy, the Ministry of Finance of Japan, ADB, JICA, and Mitsubishi Indonesia. These institutions regularly consult with my colleagues and me at LPEM to gain insights into Indonesia's current economic conditions and policy landscape.

How do you balance your demanding professional responsibilities with personal life, and what do you enjoy doing outside of work?

I wouldn't say I have a perfect work-life balance, but I do try to make time for my family whenever I can. For example, I always make it a point to have lunch with them on weekends. My kids are passionate about photography, and I sometimes I join them in visiting photography stores and enjoying their photos. We also love to travel together during the holidays. .

As for personal hobbies, I'm a numismatics enthusiast--I collect old coins, particularly from the Netherlands East Indies. In my spare time, I enjoy exploring my collection and often participate in both online and offline coin auctions and exhibitions.

What are some of your fondest memories of your time spent at GRIPS?

Earning a PhD is always difficult and challenging, so having close friends is essential for both your academic and personal life. One of my fondest memories is spending time with them at GRIPS, even taking naps together during the day--those moments are unforgettable. Another memorable aspect of my time at GRIPS was the opportunity to interact with many Indonesian government officials. It was a unique experience that I would not have had at other institutions.

If you could give one piece of advice to anyone considering studying at GRIPS what would it be?

If you're looking for a world-class public policy school, GRIPS is the right place. Particularly for Indonesians, GRIPS has extensive experience and a dedicated academic staff with expertise in Indonesian economic policy.

How would you like to stay connected with GRIPS as an alumnus? Do you have any suggestions for strengthening the GRIPS alumni network or making it more impactful?

GRIPS could consider creating alumni platforms based on graduation batches and specific programs. Additionally, utilizing social media platforms like Instagram could be a great way to engage and connect alumni.